In this episode, we delve into the crucial realm of climate education. Addressing the concerns of parents who worry their children may not be adequately learning about pressing topics like climate change in traditional schools, our guest, Dr. Elizabeth Bagley, Ph.D., Managing Director of Project Drawdown, guides us through effective ways to educate both children and parents on climate change and its solutions. Project Drawdown, known for its evidence-based and strategic approach to combating climate change, has a mission to halt global warming swiftly, safely, and equitably. Dr. Bagley, with her dual Ph.D.s in environment and resources and educational psychology, shares insights on Drawdown Learn and its impact on K–12 schools, the role of education in climate solutions, and how innovative tools like video games can encourage systems thinking about complex environmental issues. From addressing the concerns of a 10-year-old to navigating the politicization of climate change in schools, the episode explores various resources and approaches for families to effectively teach and learn about climate change, empowering children to take meaningful action. Dr. Elizabeth Bagley, a distinguished environmental educator and scientist, holds joint PhDs in Environmental Science, Environment and Resources, and Educational Psychology. Her expertise spans creating sustainability courses, developing educational video games, and designing professional development for teachers. At Project Drawdown, Dr. Bagley leads initiatives on climate solutions and educational outreach, combining her extensive knowledge in environmental science with innovative teaching methodologies to inspire and empower learners.
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Time Codes
00:00:00 — Manisha introduces the topic and Dr. Elizabeth Bagley, focusing on climate education for homeschooling families
00:02:40 — Highlighting Dr. Bagley's background in creating sustainability courses and educational video games
00:06:32 — Dr. Bagley speaks about the diversity of solutions required to address climate change
00:08:20 — Conversation on effective ways to engage people in climate change discussions and the importance of value alignment
000:10:19 — Focus on engaging people who are alarmed about climate change
00:16:55 — Ideas for community-level involvement in climate action and the role of local governance
00:18:40 — Reflections on personal experiences and connecting local actions to global climate efforts
00:22:10 — Sharing of digital resources and initiatives for climate education and action
00:24:55 — Climate Curricula in K-12 Education: The need for solution-oriented climate curricula in education
00:35:20 — Manisha shares how the book 'Drawdown’ influenced her focus on girls' education
00:37:40 — Talk about local initiatives in sustainability and securing funding for climate projects
00:46:33 — Insights on fostering critical and nuanced thinking in climate education and beyond
00:50:00 — Concluding thoughts on the changing and interconnected nature of environmental challenges and education
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