Manisha hosts Lesley Grossblatt, who delves into the philosophy and practical aspects of unschooling, particularly when both parents work full-time. The discussion covers day-to-day unschooling routines, emphasizing learner-driven education and the importance of understanding individual interests and motivations, innovative approaches to teaching math through real-world experiences, and managing screen time effectively within an unschooling framework. Additionally, Lesley, a senior product specialist, offers valuable insights for those developing products in the EdTech and education spaces. This episode offers a deep dive into the transformative potential of unschooling and its role in reshaping educational paradigms. Lesley Grossblatt, an esteemed technology executive, has led pivotal projects at Netflix, Intuit, and KQED, showcasing her expertise in product management and strategy. Beyond her corporate contributions, Lesley is an advocate for unschooling, applying this student-driven learning approach to her children's education, reflecting her innovative stance on educational challenges. Currently, she extends her rich experience in leadership and innovation through services in executive coaching, management consulting, nonprofit consulting, and strategic planning.
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Time Codes
00:00:00 — Introduction: Manisha welcomes Lesley Grossblatt
00:01:09 — Lesley shares her personal journey into unschooling
00:03:53 — Discussing the concept of crisis homeschooling
00:10:40 — The significance of the de-schooling process in unschooling
00:17:05 — Lesley's perspective on the learner-driven approach of unschooling
00:21:17 — Utilizing video games and technology as educational tools in unschooling
00:29:48 — How Lesley tailored Japanese language learning for her child's interests
00:34:31 — Addressing fears and misconceptions about unschooling
00:38:45 — Lesley's older child's transition from unschooling to traditional high school
00:46:40 — Exploring the concept of strewing in unschooling
00:52:20 — Balancing unschooling with full-time work and nurturing children's independence
00:55:30 — Lesley discusses integrating life skills into unschooling and shares her experience working with education entrepreneurs
00:59:02 — The importance of community support in the unschooling journey
01:03:25 — How Lesley manages time and resources for unschooling
01:07:00 — Final thoughts and conclusion of the interview
This podcast is made possible through a generous grant from the Vela Education Fund
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